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Student Interview with Darren Pratt

This month MI Magazine talks with 2nd Kyu Darren Pratt from Perth. Darren studies at the Indian Ocean Dojo in Fremantle under Robert Hymus Sensei and we caught up with him to talk about his training in Tsutsumi Hozan Ryu Jujitsu, grading, difficulties in training and also the background of his style.

MI: Please can I begin by asking your age and rank?

DP: I am 34 years old and hold the rank of 2nd kyu in Tsutsumi Hozan-ryu jujitsu. I train at Indian Ocean Dojo in Fremantle, Western Australia under the supervision of Robert Hymus sensei. Many of your readers will not be familiar with Tstutsumi Hozan-ryu jujitsu. It is a style, which dates back to the early 1300's in Japan and therefore has a long lineage and tradition. Those with an interest in history might appreciate some of the material at http://www.indianoceandojo.com.au/history.html

Not with standing the age of the school, successive generations of head teachers have been careful to ensure that the classical roots of the art are preserved whilst at the same time maintaining the contemporary relevance and effectiveness of the techniques.

Practitioners of aikido would recognise the aiki principles that underlie many of the techniques. In this regard, there are also many similarities with the Daito-ryu Aikijutsu that Ueshiba studied.

MI: How long have you been practicing jujitsu?
DP: I started practicing Tsustumi Hozan-ryu jujitsu in 1996.
MI: How did you come to get into jujitsu?

DP: Although I had always had an interest in self-defence and the martial arts, I spent from 16 to about 26 training in kayaking at a high level. Toward the end of my kayaking career, I decided to pursue my interest in self-defence.

I wanted to learn an art with a focus on practical application rather than competition and I chose to train under Jan De Jong Sensei in Tsutsumi Hozan-ryu because I was impressed by the fact that he had been a civilian advisor CQB (close quarter battle), to the Special Air Services Regiment.

MI: How often do you get to train?

DP: At the moment, I attend 3 classes per week. I also try and do a private lesson with Hymus Sensei at least every second week. In addition, I train on my own 3 to 4 times per week. So, in total, probably about 10 to 15 hours per week.

However, and I stress that this is just my personal view based on my understanding of the training regimes in different sports and of masters in range of martial arts, I really feel that to achieve a high level of mastery in an art as complex and with the breadth of technique of Tsustumi Hozan-ryu jujitsu, one would really need to train for more like 20 to 25 hours per week.

Which is not to say, of course, that someone who is only interested or able to practice a few times a week shouldn't bother. I think that any amount of training is useful and I have known personally of students who have managed to successfully defend themselves after only a few lessons.

MI: Is there anything in particular that you find difficult about jujitsu?

DP: Coming from a background in competitive sport, I find it difficult to put aside my competitive instincts. Having said that, my background has probably instilled in me a good sense of the work ethic and years of practice that are required to achieve a high level of mastery in an art.
The other aspect, which I have found difficult at times, is that unlike competitive sport, in a traditional art there are no defined boundaries or fixed dates. That is, when you train for a sport, you know the date of your major competitions and you shape your training to prepare yourself to the highest possible level on that day.

In contrast, it seems to me that in a traditional art like Tsutsumi Hozan-ryu there is both an objective level and a subjective level that must be achieved before you are ready to grade. The objective level is the minimum standard that must be achieved by any student at that grade. The subjective level is all that you personally can reasonably achieve from that grade. At times you might have met (or think you have met) the objective standard, but then after a few more months of practice you suddenly find that you have achieved new insights and levels of skill. This requires both that you do not have any expectations as to when you will grade and that you have a very skilled teacher in whom you have absolute trust and confidence.

MI: How important is grading to you?

DP: On the one hand, I have trained with people who say that belts are unimportant and only skill matters. There is merit in this view, and it is noteworthy that the kyu-dan ranking system is a relatively recent innovation in the history of the martial arts (It was not introduced into Tsutsumi-ryu until the early 1900's).

On the other hand, a grading syllabus represents a structured approach to the development of strategy and skill that has been honed by generations of masters. Accordingly, I think that it is important to endeavor to continue to progress through the ranks so as to learn more advanced strategies and skills. However, it is the process of skill development that is important and which should be concentrated on by students. The awarding of coloured belts is merely the outcome of that process.

MI: How do you supplement your jujitsu learning (websites, books, DVD's, ect)?

DP: I read books and online journals, visit websites (such as this one!), and sometimes buy martial arts magazines and DVD's.

I think that these things are useful in giving an insight into one's own art and other arts. However, I have seen recently some of the on-line dojos in the United States. Whilst I can see they might have a role in teaching basic technique, I think that a high level of skill (particularly in an art based on aiki principles) can only be obtained from years of practice under the supervision of a skilled teacher and not from a book or online.
MI: As a student of jujitsu, do you think it is important to know and learn about the history of the art?
DP: I think that knowledge of the history of jujitsu and of other arts is important because of the insights that it can give into technique and strategy. For example, I find it useful to reflect on how different forces might have led arts to develop along different lines: How did traditional Okinawan karate differ from the forms that developed in Japan? How and why do judo practitioners and jujitsu practitioners differ in the way they apply some techniques? How does aikido differ from Daito-ryu Aikijutsu? How has competition shaped TaeKwonDo?

The importance of a knowledge of history one's own art and of other arts is reflected in the Tsutsumi Hozan-ryu grading syllabus where some ranks require students to pass an oral exam concerning the history of Tsutsumi Hozan-ryu and of other arts.
MI: What have you got and what do you want to get out of learning jujitsu?
DP: At a practical level, I have obtained a reasonable level of competence and some practical skills in self-defence.

At a more abstract level, I like to think that I have started to assimilate some of the mental discipline that is implicit in our training into my everyday life. People sometimes talk of fighting spirit, which is a term that many people tend to think of as just mindless aggression. However, I think fighting spirit is the ability to remain resolute and calm under pressure and in the face of adversity, to choose the most appropriate course of action, and then to act decisively. I'd like to think that my training has helped me to develop these qualities.

As for the future, I hope to continue to develop my own skills and to be able to assist in perpetuating the art.

MI: Thank you kindly for taking time to share with our readers.

Indian Ocean Dojo
http://www.indianoceandojo.com.au/

 


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